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Behind The Scenes Of The Original Trilogy
From the gritty sands of Tunisia and a rain-soaked "A New Hope" set to the chuckles over Carrie Fisher's space lingerie—or lack thereof—we swap stories that could fill a holocron. Remembering Anthony Daniels' shattered C-3PO leg piece, we explore the candid humanity woven into the fabric of this fantastical saga. And it's not just the sets and costumes that spark our conversation; the antics of the cast, the camaraderie that bloomed behind the cameras, and Carrie Fisher's playful mischief with a squirt gun all remind us of the joy and laughter that fuels the heart of Star Wars.
With anticipation for "The Bad Batch" finale hanging in the air like the promise of a twin sunset on Tatooine, we speculate on the saga's future and the stories waiting to be told. Rachel, our special guest, gears up to share her take on "The Light of the Jedi," promising even more intergalactic exploration. Whether it's musings on the rich character tapestry or the excitement for "Tales of the Empire," this episode is a hyperdrive jump through the cherished memories and future horizons of Star Wars fandom. Join us for a trip that's part nostalgia, part speculation, and all love for the galaxy far, far away.
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Hey, harry, welcome to the Sisterhood of the Traveling Bantha. We are your hosts, denise and.
Speaker 2:Rexy, and we are recording with special support from Council Member Mark Collier.
Speaker 1:And we're broadcasting from our galaxy to yours. May the Force be with you Always. What's up, we're live now. Hey, how's it going? We are back again this week Talking more Star Wars. Last week was a lot of fun. We talked about.
Speaker 2:Living in a Star Wars film. Yeah, what Star Wars film we would want to look at. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:I think I'd be okay living. I thought about it more. I think I'd be okay with being a part of Rogue One. Yeah, yeah, just go down with the ship. I thought about it more. Yeah, I think I'd be okay with being a part of Rogue One. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just go down with the ship. Yeah, it'd be a great and glorious death getting the Death Star plans to the Republic.
Speaker 2:Oh it would be, though You'd be a part of something amazing, and it was a very beautiful scene as well.
Speaker 1:Who would have thought that a planet blowing up would look so pretty? That's true, that's a very morbid, though very morbid thing. Oh my goodness. Um, I'm not threats to the jedi, but this week, uh, rexy picked out our topic I am looking for them because I was talking with denise, picked out our topic.
Speaker 2:I am looking for them because I was talking with Denise and she's like believe in my story.
Speaker 1:So give me just a second. Sorry, I got people distracted. Normally it's the other way around.
Speaker 2:We're really reversing the ball this week.
Speaker 1:We are very reversed. Look at these, they're space tigers, lions those are amazing. So what people? So people can see what we are talking about. We got space lions, yeah, from the high republic, um the chancellor lions. I can't remember Targons, which are pretty epic looking they're twins.
Speaker 2:Those are amazing. They're called Targons.
Speaker 1:Yes, they have big split tongues and four eyes.
Speaker 2:Four eyes lion's mane.
Speaker 1:They're so cool, they're so cool. I'm telling you I'm becoming obsessed with the High Republic. I'm stoked to I'm becoming obsessed with the High Republic, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm stoked to dive into it. I'm ready to start.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to give you spoilers, but while listening to the audiobook, just because it's easier. While I'm working, because I do work a crazy full-time job.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was sitting there with my Star Wars Wikipedia page up and like googling names, as I heard it, and different like species and planets and ships, because I'm a very visual person, I need to see it in front of me to get like more engaged with the story and, being the High Republic, we don't really know anybody from the stories, so it'll be exciting yeah, and so then I bought the encyclopedia because, um, to be helpful, I like visuals.
Speaker 2:As I stated, it's difficult when there's no face at all or like known pictures and so um, I'm getting like.
Speaker 1:I just uh messaged rachel, oh hey, phil what's up, phil?
Speaker 2:oh, the production value on that audiobook is pretty epic. It's so good okay, oh my gosh, the music that you gotta come back at the end of the month and talk about the book with us.
Speaker 1:yes, the last wednesday of this month. We are talking all about the light of the Jedi. Yeah, and we're having a special guest. Yes, rachel.
Speaker 2:I believe we are having Rachel Come on. It's a special guest.
Speaker 1:Yes, but yeah, I was blown away, Like blown away.
Speaker 2:I'm excited to read it. I'm ready to get into it.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you can borrow my visual book Sweet.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 1:I also want to talk about something rad that everybody did this week.
Speaker 2:What was that? I was?
Speaker 1:your April 8th. What was April 8th? Oh, it was good, I was off work. It was, you know, we all know. I talked about my, my preteen, my 12 year old love him to death. He was off of school as well. He was off school. He um, they just happened to have the eighth off, so I was like I'll take the day off, we'll hang out, we'll watch the eclipse.
Speaker 1:And so the eclipse happens and he's like that's it, it's not gonna get darker, oh, I went on totality, buddy, I know, but we were told it was like 95, 96% totality, so I was thinking maybe like 95, 96% darkness. Yeah, it was not. It was still really cool. We heard all the birds and the bugs and everything go quiet. And the temperature definitely dropped dramatically, which was really cool.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, mine was also pretty freaking cool. Um, eric and I went up to okay. So there's the story. I have tea to spill. First there is, uh, there. This, this eclipse vacation started off with some, some drama and some crying, so we had this place booked for a year and a half. Adri, mark's wife Mark is Eric's older brother. Yeah, she booked this place like a year and a half ago as soon as she found out that this was going to happen.
Speaker 1:We both did it. No, it's fine, we both did it.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna put your book down here, though, okay. Okay. So she booked this place like a year and a half ago, as soon as we found out the eclipse was going to happen, and it was a place up by Springfield Frederickstown I think it was.
Speaker 1:It was in the path of totality Okay so I was confused when you said Eureka Springs.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, because we were supposed to go up by St Louis St Louis, not Springs, because that was in the path of totality and we're like it's so close, we'll just drive there and make a weekend of it, right? So a year and a half passes, we're all getting ready to go. It is the night that Eric and I are about to leave and drive to his mom's house, are about to leave and drive to his mom's house because we're going to stay the night with her and then carpool with her up to st louis instead of freaking. Everybody's car mark and adrie headed out that night and we're heading up there to, uh, or the day that we were all supposed to leave.
Speaker 2:They were heading up towards our place in st louis and they were like let's just call and get like our code and all that stuff ahead of time. Make sure it's all squared away. They call, and they call, and they call, and the phone rings and rings and like no number no no nothing. They can't get a hold of anybody at all, and so they were like, oh well, this is the problem. So they call airbnb and they're like hey, we're on our way to this house.
Speaker 2:We don't have any codes or anything like it's been booked for a year and a half. We can't get a hold of anybody, and they were were like okay, well, hold on, we have, you know, like emergency numbers and things like that, yeah. So they were like hang on, yeah, I you know, we don't know, but we'll see if we can get a hold of them. So they call and call, and call and call and they can get a hold of nobody. So Airbnb is like okay, we don't know what happened.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to investigate this further.
Speaker 2:In the meantime, we're going to give you a partial refund and put you in another place, you know, for no extra cost at all, another place in the area, and she's like okay, cool, it's totality of eclipse there is nothing Forever Booked ours a year and a half ago. Oh man yeah yeah, so there's nothing available. So they're like oh no, um, so sorry, here's a full refund. We don't know what to do right because at that point it's like we can't really blame airbnb for shady stuff the owner's doing, and it turns out the owner had sold the house but never updated the listing.
Speaker 2:Just kept collecting people's money. Oh my god, like nobody ever knew. So the new owner is just like I don't. I don't know what you're talking about this. Uh, we don't have an airbnb.
Speaker 1:You know, we use our house for only us I say I've heard of airbnb hosts, um, for like big events, like they'll cancel people, yeah, and then rebook it with somebody else at a higher price to get more money. So frustrating.
Speaker 2:So this was just straight up fraud. He was just like I'm gonna take all your money and you don't get a place to stay so we were like oh, no, and adri is a freaking rock star and she scrambled around and happened to find this absolutely beautiful, perfect place in yourureka Springs, like just like 15 minutes outside of Eureka Springs.
Speaker 2:Okay, nice. And it wasn't 100% totality, which is a bummer, because we were supposed to have that, but we had like 98.3% totality, so we got a heck of a good show. It was beautiful and, like you were talking about the degree Like we felt like a 5 to 10 degree temperature drop.
Speaker 1:And that was that was really cool. Yeah, I thought that was really cool. But, Owen was like oh, that's it. Oh, like after, like it moved back, like as it was moving past it. He's like I'm going to go back in and play video games. I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2:2045, we'll have to go to Ketown. Yeah, 2045, we'll have to go to the cabin. Yeah, so but, it really illustrates. We were talking while we were watching it about how powerful the sun you know, and it's rays are because we were at, I mean, 1.7% of the sun we could see, that's all and we were still, like you could see just fine, and it wasn't freezing. Our sun is powerful. It's like our sun is powerful.
Speaker 1:It's pretty amazing I mean, yeah, we're a lot closer than what. Six other point, five other, no, there's only eight planets now so five other planets, pluto's, not a planet.
Speaker 2:Our poor childhood, they took pluto they have been ruining our childhood like three or four times a year, every year since we became adults yeah, it's like more and more things come out and you're like, oh, but you know what's great?
Speaker 1:we got fun Star Wars stories. We do have Star Wars stories and we probably get into them.
Speaker 2:Like I didn't realize, we've been chatting for 10 oh, 10 minutes okay, well, thanks for being such a support. The eclipse was cool. The eclipse was cool. While I'm editing this, when it drops on Friday, I'll toss in some pictures, and we also have some videos from us watching the eclipse that'll be dropping probably today.
Speaker 1:I haven't been home very long.
Speaker 2:I haven't been home very long, so I haven't had time to put everything together. That's fine. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Life happens and Denise almost just knocked everything over, so let's just keep going. Okay, maybe we won't do that.
Speaker 2:All right, so I have the first story from A New Hope. So, during production on A New new hope, filming for the scenes on tatooine were shot in pelagia, tunisia, tunisia, tunisia. It was the perfect location for the dry, sandy environment of luke's home world, owing to the fact that it hadn't rained there in seven years. But mother nature had different ideas. Seven years, seven years it had not rained in this place for seven years.
Speaker 1:So I guess that does make it the perfect place for kathleen, because I don't think kathleen had seen rain in a very, very long time. Yeah, it's just sand and they have to have their moisture far.
Speaker 2:Well, this day they didn't, because just after they arrived in tunisia, the heavens opened up and the area experienced the heaviest rainfall in an entire generation Every four days straight, causing filming to delay and damaging some of the sets. That's like our luck, I know I've trained. In seven years here's a flood.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh that sucks. And they traveled all that way to Tun flood. Oh my gosh that sucks. And they traveled all that way to film Through Tunisia, to have it just.
Speaker 2:They're like perfect place. Desert Hasn't rained in almost a decade. We'll be totally fine the day they get there.
Speaker 1:They also filmed some of the scenes in Death Valley, didn't they? In California? But those are the ones with the Banthas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are the ones with Bantha, and Alex Guinness Guinness.
Speaker 1:No, alex, it's not Guinness beer, alex, alex, I need a drink after work.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I can't remember his last name. Alex was the bantha, the elephant trainer, oh, but. Margie was the elephant that they used and they were all shot in. Who else we got Okay?
Speaker 1:What You're laughing, and I don't like laughing and not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the costume that Anthony Daniels wore for A New Hope when he was P3O 3PO.
Speaker 1:You always say P3O.
Speaker 2:I know 3PO.
Speaker 1:Well, there's three that's P3O. Yeah, so you always say P2. Yeah, but it's kind of weird. But it's okay, I know.
Speaker 2:We love you anyways.
Speaker 1:You might get us canceled. We'll be safe. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:But I realize I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:Original character's name wrong. How dare you say PO instead of 3PO? You call yourself a fan. You are a disgrace to the whole fandom.
Speaker 2:Shame myself, shame, shame.
Speaker 1:The sad thing is, there are people out there that do that.
Speaker 2:I know If this makes it into the right ears that'll happen.
Speaker 1:I got laughed at because I said I was excited for the main character in the new Star Wars Outlaws game because it's a female. I'm not a very attractive one at that.
Speaker 2:Who cares? Kick them in the nuts Internet, internet, internet Alright so the costume that Anthonyony daniels wore for a new hope was extremely uncomfortable. It took hours to put on and, according to daniels, the sharp edges hurt him with every single step that sounds like wearing a stormtrooper, armando a little bit, yeah, except worse even less mobility. I don't say that thing's like skin tight, can't even like put your arms all the way down.
Speaker 1:I'd say you got no like mobility from side to side.
Speaker 2:Pieces often fell off or broke. That's what I was giggling about, and the first time that Daniel's put the costume on, the entire left leg shattered the whole thing just came apart.
Speaker 1:I'm having flashbacks to when I broke my shin on my mando. Yeah, I completely. I was taking a picture in the snow, trying to climb up on a log, to get on the log and take a really cool picture, and I slipped and I smacked right into the piece of wood. That's partly why he yeah, he waddle.
Speaker 2:I mean he can't't move.
Speaker 1:You can't bend his legs, you can't, no, just shuffle. This is all you can do. The pto or p30 shuffle.
Speaker 2:I was saying it for you it's really hard for me to not add the three in front of the, the C3 of.
Speaker 1:Temple. It's really hard for me to not add the 3 in front of the C3 of Temple.
Speaker 2:Like I know, every single time I do it, I know what I'm doing, I'm not just I bet you PO had BO in the back. I bet he did Alright. Okay, so we've got another story here, Detailed in her 2008 autobiography Wishful Drinking.
Speaker 1:Oh, read that one.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's about Lucas's insistence that she did not wear a bra in New Hope. Fisher said years later that, according to Lucas, lingerie doesn't exist in space, so as the straps could end up strangling the wearer in a zero gravity environment, playing on that.
Speaker 1:does that mean guys don't wear underwear either? I think so, Because it'd get all jumbled up.
Speaker 2:Because it would strangle you. Wait what those would? Be basically strapped into a furniture dolly, so he could rest. I've seen pictures of that. I need a picture of that I need to see it.
Speaker 1:I hate the whole. There's no underwear in space.
Speaker 2:That's such a stupid thing.
Speaker 1:It's so dumb. Was it an issue in the first one? Did he say it in the first one? Or did he say, bring it up in A Return of the Jedi Because you wore the bikini?
Speaker 2:No in A New Hope.
Speaker 1:I think it was from A New Hope.
Speaker 2:yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, insistence that she did not wear a bra in New Hope Free-balling in space.
Speaker 2:I couldn't even. Oh, I gotta plug my computer in real quick. Let me finish the story.
Speaker 1:I couldn't even imagine free-balling in space, I'm just constantly like floating around. Mom the anti-gravity.
Speaker 2:Blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, bl. I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to get that sound out of my head now. So, with this in mind, fisher often said that for her obituary I want it reported that I drowned in moonlight, strangled by my own bra that was like one of the stories that she loved to tell anytime she could talk about that story like she was talking about that story.
Speaker 1:I need to plug the computer in real quick. I'm sensing a theme every week, but I like Carrie Fisher. If you have not read any of her books like, I, highly recommend it. They're so good. Some get a little bit deeper than others. Um one of them, it like made me bawl my eyes out but like there's some?
Speaker 1:um, where was it? The one I can't remember. I think her daughter may have read it, but it was talking all about filming Star Wars and a lot of it talked about her affair that she had with Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I have read that one yet, but I've heard a few of the stories from that am I pushing you over?
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I'm just wandering away, I'm very pushy, so am. I Speaking, though, of their romance In the book, which was based on a diary Fisher kept during A New Hope. Yeah, that's got to be that one. Yeah, she claimed that she had an affair with Harrison Ford during production. Ford himself confirmed that the affair happened, but has not chosen to elaborate out of respect for Fisher, who died just a month after the book was published.
Speaker 1:The book was so good Like there's so much tea in that book. It was so great what.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I forgot about this. When you're gonna love it, all right, all right. While the late peter mayhew may not have had a single speaking role in all of star wars, the character he played, chewbacca, is easily the most lovable sidekick in the entire franchise. Yes, but while the iconic wookiee is recognizable on screen from afar, he could be mistaken for something else entirely. Like a bear or like Bigfoot Earth, wookie Bigfoot. This was the situation Mayhew found himself in when filming the Endor scenes of Return of the.
Speaker 2:Jedi in the Redwoods. While shooting in the Redwood Forest in Northern California, Mayhew was escorted by men wearing orange vests whenever he was in costume. Their concern was that a hunter would mistake him for a Sasquatch and shoot him.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you like a Wookiee. It makes you wonder Originally, where did we? We talked about the look of Chewbacca change and evolve over time.
Speaker 2:It was originally Did we talk about it in our Creatures episode.
Speaker 1:No, we did not. Oh my goodness, now I can't remember, but we talked about how he evolved and it looked entirely different. What was it? Or was it that the Ewoks changed? Oh my god, I can't even remember because we talked about how it changed. And the Ross? Oh, okay, never mind, I'm all right, I know I, we got there. So originally we were talking about when we read warwick davis's book and him being an ewok that originally, in return of the jedi, they were going to go back to the planet of kashyyyk and have the wookies fight um the empire, but because of how tabaka had been portrayed and being bigger, stronger character, they didn't want to do that. That's why they created the Ewoks, the more primitive species. There we go. I was like I know we talked about this and I couldn't get to it. We did, we did, we got there. Good job. But it makes me wonder when you created Chewbacca, like, did he have inspiration from Bigfoot stories?
Speaker 2:He had to right right. It looks too much like bigfoot to have like no inspiration so similar to bigfoot.
Speaker 1:I'm sure if you get a bigfoot specialist he would say that they sound the same too. Oh, I bet because of the long. That's. What we also learned, too was the long vocal cords are so stretched. Yes, when we talked, that was our wookie versus ewok episode. Oh yeah, there we go. That's when we talked about it. We're our sad attempts of trying to learn how to speak. She woke.
Speaker 2:Yes, they weren't great, but we tried uh, so phil says he got to meet peter mayhew in the early 2000s and he was such a sweet, sweet man yes, I got to meet him at celebration.
Speaker 1:Four in la. I didn't buy like the autograph or anything and this was back in the time, because it was like 2004 or 5. Okay, I walked up and took a picture with him, oh, and they didn't charge, like I was like hey, I'm a fan. And I chit-chatted with them. I was like, can I get a picture? And he's like, yeah, can I get a picture? And he's like yeah sure, we took a picture.
Speaker 1:We interacted I also did that with David Krauss, yeah, and we met Larry Baker. I think I didn't get a picture with them but I also All of the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And this is back when, like Luke Skywalker, so um Mark Hamill's autograph was only like $60 back then, whoa, carrie Fisher's $60.
Speaker 2:And back then it's wild to think of like.
Speaker 1:And what's crazy was, back then I was complaining about how expensive it was. I was like God, this is way too much money for a celebrity. Like it's like it's just a signature right. And now you're like hundreds. I'm gonna say some of them three, 350. And I'm like this is astronomical and it's not necessarily the celebrities that set the pricing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's their teams and their agents and their agencies.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say the people who set up all the a lot of the cons sometimes cons will have a set like this is what you're trying to do because they have to make a certain amount of money back to pay for the celebrities.
Speaker 2:But I wish I would have got all those autographs back then, I was a poor college student right after we graduated high school, like one or two years after.
Speaker 1:I was working at Disney at that time. That was my first time I ever cosplayed. I cosplayed as padme from attack of the clones I gotta find them that's the thing they're on a hard drive somewhere, and once you find them, then we'll put some stuff together. I have moved several times since then, so I don't know where the hard drive is.
Speaker 2:Well, you look. You look and when you find them, we'll put them up. So we've got the next one. Director Irving Kirshner told of a particularly memorable shot that was taken during one such storm, while they were filming on Hoth. They were like in the middle of like blizzards and freezing winds.
Speaker 2:So, Empire Strikes Back, yep. The shot in question was a scene where Luke wanders back to base after the Wampa attack, unable to leave their hotel due to the winds. The production crew stayed at the entrance and filmed while Mark Hamill wandered around in the snow.
Speaker 1:But it was too cold for everybody to go out, they just made him stay there. But it's too cold for everybody to go out, but they would sit down, man, they just made a stand, yeah they shot from like the doorway oh sorry, bro, you're Luke. Skywalker, you'll be fine. You're the face of the movie, so you gotta do it.
Speaker 2:Sorry, we can't afford to. Yeah, I've heard that story.
Speaker 1:Do it? Sorry, we can't afford to take these people. Yeah, I've heard that story Because it got really, really cold. Wasn't it like negative temperatures Were they filmed at?
Speaker 2:I believe I would look it up, I don't remember yeah.
Speaker 1:I would look it up on my phone.
Speaker 2:I would too, but I got my stories on my phone. Okay, back to funny stories from the set of A New Hope, though. One of the funniest behind-the-scenes stories was while they were in Tunisia. So while shooting scenes for Tatooine, the production crew for the biblical epic Jesus of Nazareth had set up shop nearby. For the most part, the two crews didn't bother each other very much, that is, until one of the remote-controlled R2 units malfunctioned, unable to stop the droid which no longer responded to radio control the crew watched helplessly as R2-D2 paid the folks at the Jesus of Nazareth cinema visit.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, All these religious people are like what in tarnations? What in tarnations?
Speaker 2:No, they say tarnation in Tunisia. Oh my gosh, it's like a southern thing, right.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I wasn't there with that.
Speaker 2:They're like baby Jesus, and here comes R2-D2. What is this?
Speaker 1:metal devil doing over here.
Speaker 2:I love R2. He is my favorite for so many reasons.
Speaker 1:He's also the most vulgar character in um he's always being bleeped out. Vulgar character. And um he's always being bleeped out. Mm-hmm. So vulgar he could be bleeped out all the time everything's a poor little word.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, all right let me look up my next article.
Speaker 1:Oh goodness, I love R2. R2's great. He is my freaking favorite. Oh, talking about where's my book? Oh, I put it right there. Yes, we're going to my book. Well, I'll pick that up. Okay, it's fine. Denise is knocking over things when?
Speaker 2:is Well, you're looking for the next one. While filming the Empire Strikes Back, Fisher rented Eric Idle's house.
Speaker 1:Who's Eric Idle. He was in Monty Python. Oh okay, my grandmother was obsessed with Monty Python.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah. I like Monty Python. It's so fun Going back to the baby Jesus and the children shall lead. What the hell is that?
Speaker 2:tin can devil that's probably one of my favorites. Oh, okay, okay. The Monty Python actor was still spending time at the property while he was renting it, and one night he invited the Rolling Stones over. Fisher asked Fisher asked Harrison for to join too, and the two actors drank and partied with the band. The only problem was that they were due on set in a few hours. We weren't hungover, fisher said. About filming the scene, we were still in our cups, so they were still drunk. So what movie was this for Empire? And if you watch the movie, you can see that Harrison and I are smiling as we arrive in Cloud City. Doesn't that sound like a euphemism? I like it. I don't keep getting so far away from it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because I'm being pussy.
Speaker 2:I don't think you are, though I think I'm just wandering away. I found what I wanted to show you though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's do it. It's another droid. Oh, who is he? That is Astro-McDroidGT22. Hello, gt22. But again, you guys, I'm telling you my like Look at that droid, I can't believe it. Look at him. I think he's cool. And Owen's like no, he's not as cool as R2.
Speaker 2:He's right, he's not as cool as R2. But we should make one.
Speaker 1:I think this one is so cool looking.
Speaker 2:I like the droids Me too, the droids and the creatures.
Speaker 1:Totally my favorites. Creatures. I love creatures.
Speaker 2:Whoa, what is?
Speaker 1:that Uh well, uh, show them that creature.
Speaker 2:Whatever this thing is, it's amazing. I don't know. It's kind of a touca, but like a thousand times bigger Volca With horns Volca.
Speaker 1:Sorry, my like this is rad, distracted, like all over the place today. It's fine. I had a very long day. I think it's because I keep moving back and I don't want to just smack you in the face right now. Oh, okay, maybe that's like.
Speaker 2:That's some excitement I'd rather not have, but if we did, at least it would be on video. That would be funny. It would Okay. Um, this was one of my favorite things to read too. Okay. So while filming Empire Strikes Back, fisher asked her space brother, Mark Hamill, to try on her Hoth space jumpsuit During the 2017 Star Wars celebration. Hamill told the audience how Fisher then accessorized the outfit with clown nose glasses and bozo hair, and after Hamill was dressed, fisher took him by the hand and paraded him around the entire studio.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, he also wore Fisher's floral robe around set simply because she asked him to. After sharing the story, Hamill said I don't think I would have done that for anybody but her. Nothing pleased me more than making her laugh.
Speaker 1:You know they always every story you hear, especially between like Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill. They always just seem like they genuinely had a lot of fun together yeah like they are always goofing off, like truly like a brother-sister relationship. Yeah, it's a really, really fun, like I'm gonna say, and you can see that too in the relationship on screen, which makes me sad because I wish we would have got more in the sequels. Yeah, except that one scene, but they didn't bring him in for right or force awakens and then carrie fisher passed away.
Speaker 1:They weren't able to do much with her oh I wish we could have seen more of the brother sister, but you could tell that they still cared I. I wanted to know more about their story, like I want to know more about what happens between Return and the Rise.
Speaker 2:We could still get like a TV show where they could go back. You know they could do something animated or have actors play younger versions of themselves, maybe.
Speaker 1:So I know some people don't like it. So I know some people don't like it, but I am totally okay with actors like them recasting characters Like I have no problem and I know Mark Hamill has said he has no problem if they hire an actor to come in to play a younger him. Right, yeah, I think the only one I might have like an issue seeing is like somebody else playing Princess Leia. Yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2:I think that's the only one I'd ever be like. Hmm, like it carries our princess right, unless we're talking about different ages.
Speaker 1:I'm saying because the child one was really good, she was fantastic. But that's like Liam Nilsen said, he doesn't want anybody to ever play Qui-Gon, but then, like we have the whole Ahsoka show, coming out season two Like are they recasting both.
Speaker 2:Is it gonna be CGI or?
Speaker 1:I think they're gonna have to recast them and I'm okay with that Like his story was as long as they do a good job with what they're doing Like, yeah, just continue to tell the story. Yeah, so side note, sorry, speaking of all the fun that you think that they had on set.
Speaker 2:Here's a story to illustrate that. All right, so on a particularly hot day while filming the original trilogy, someone brought squirt guns to the set. Okay, peter Mayhew, the actor who played Chewbacca, remembers Fisher grabbing one and running around in costume soaking Harrison Ford, mark Hamill and anyone else who got in her way, and eventually someone had to take the toy away from her Did she squirt.
Speaker 1:Like Did she? You paused at the wrong place, I know. Did she use the water gun on Peter Mayhew while he was in costume? Could you imagine like a Wookiee costume wet, are you excited? Blasted with a water gun? They're terrible people. I know they're terrible, it's funny Terrible people, but it smelled like that wet, like burn Ohrible people. But it smelled like that wet, like fur.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's so hot, people definitely sweat inside of it.
Speaker 1:But is it real hair? Is it synthetic hair, like was it? It's gotta be synthetic, right? I don't know, like we know people who use real hair. I think I didn't want to say name. Yeah, that's right, wouldn't that be even?
Speaker 2:heavier though.
Speaker 1:Not necessarily. It's all about the spacing Wet yak hair.
Speaker 2:You gross Yak, let's see.
Speaker 1:What else you got for us, Rexy? Checking for the next one.
Speaker 2:Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1:I think I might know which one you're talking about. Yeah, I think Can, I guess. Yeah, I think I might know which one you're talking about Can? I guess I do know that during A New Hope the actor who played Grand Moff Tarkin would constantly wear his slippers around the set instead of his shoes, because they didn't ever show his feet, so he wore house shoes around the. Is that not, it?
Speaker 2:No, no, yeah, he would not. Oh yeah, you would wear head, shoes and everything and then like bunny slippers.
Speaker 1:It would be great if it was bunny slippers, but I don't think it was bunny slippers.
Speaker 2:Oh, I hope it was bunny slippers.
Speaker 1:Oh, so never mind. What was your story, Rexy?
Speaker 2:Ummm, oh, so never mind what was your story, Rexy.
Speaker 1:Here we go.
Speaker 2:So at one point during filming for Return of the Jedi, hamill and Fisher were pulled aside and told that their characters were actually twins, separated at first. Upon hearing this, hamill asked Well, if I'm Luke Skywalker from the moisture farm on Tatooine and she's Princess Leia, does that make royalty? Does that make me royalty? Without missing a beat, fisher said no.
Speaker 1:She wasn't. He wasn't adopted by the royal family of.
Speaker 2:Alderaan Nope, nope, and it wasn't a blood thing.
Speaker 1:It was my adopted family.
Speaker 2:Alright, I have. I've got one more, so you.
Speaker 1:You say your next thing.
Speaker 2:I'll look up my next thing Talking about adopted family.
Speaker 1:So we have Leia, who was adopted by the Organas, and then Luke Skywalker is taken back to Tafelene, where his father was born With the same last name. Skywalker, that's not really like a oh.
Speaker 2:No, it's not. That name is not like oh, it's 15 minutes to sunset. My watch just let me know, is it? Yes, I have it set up to tell me when it's 15 minutes. I don't. Where are they?
Speaker 1:am I making you lose your spirit?
Speaker 2:place again. No, it switched over to a different page and it, like it, didn't bookmark my place, just the page itself.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, okay.
Speaker 2:So I'm gonna tell you some really funny bad reviews. Oh, I like bad reviews, okay. So this one Okay, there we go. This one is from the very first one from Star Wars or Star Wars. A New one? Okay, there we go. This one is from the very first one from Star Wars or Star Wars A New Hope. Okay, there's no breather in the picture, no lyricism. The only attempt at beauty is in the double sunset. It's enjoyable on its own terms, but it's exhausting, too Like taking a pack of kids to the circus there is a lot going on.
Speaker 1:So I guess I can kind of see that. But that's a three part story within a three part well actually nine part story. There is a lot going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but at the time that had come out, I think it was the only Star Wars they had ever had though here we got another one.
Speaker 2:It's an epic without a dream, but it's probably the absence of wonder that accounts for the film's special, huge success. The excitement of those who call it the film of the year goes way past nostalgia, to the feeling that now is the time to return to childhood. An hour into it, children say that they're ready to see it again. That's because it's an assemblage of spare parts. It has no emotional grip.
Speaker 1:So Really.
Speaker 2:I saw that the first time when I was like a small child, like five or six, okay, and I was hooked Immediately.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's what it's saying that the children are hooked because it's not.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I was a child. Okay, Immediately.
Speaker 1:That's what it's saying. The children are hooked Because it's not. Oh, yeah, I was a child. Okay, yeah, I can see. Like I know Adults who watch it For the first time. A lot of them are like Okay, like, yeah, they're not, not super into it, it's a very. It's a much simpler, yet not simpler story, if that makes sense. Like it's very. A kid gets, watches his family die, he goes out into outer space. Oh, he now has these powers and he joins this rebellion and now he becomes the hero and it's. It's the story that's been told a ton of times. Yeah, but in space, which also had already been told in space, because then we have Dune.
Speaker 2:Like it's a very common story, but it still just like resonated with so many of us. But and people like that, A bunch of people were not about it.
Speaker 1:People like that storyline of the under what's. Oh, what's the word that I'm looking for? The underdog.
Speaker 2:The what's the word that I'm looking for? The underdog, the underdog story. People like to root for the underdog.
Speaker 1:That's what that story was, and that's why people liked it, because they saw themselves as an underdog, just living their daily life and then going off and then saving the entire galaxy Like but I can see it Adults watch it now and they're like.
Speaker 2:They're like, yeah, like, if you get somebody that wasn't a fan forever. And you're like, hey, sit down and watch A New Hope, Like we always fall asleep to that movie. So many times Matt falls asleep to it every time.
Speaker 1:My child, my 12-year-old child, will not watch the originals. Yeah, because he finds them boring.
Speaker 2:That makes sense, the more we get into it.
Speaker 1:I think the more we appreciate it, the more complex the stories get. And they also, but I think the help of technology and CGI and all the special effects, because they just didn't have it. No, they didn't. They created the special effects for the movies. They created like, um, what Got another?
Speaker 2:one. Oh no, I sincerely hope that science and scientists differ from science fiction and its practitioners. Heaven help us. If they don't, we may be headed for a very boring world indeed. Drip Star Wars of its often striking images and its highfalutin scientific jargon and you get a story, characters and dialogue of overwhelming banality, without even a future cast to them human beings, anthropods or robots you could probably find them all more or less like that in downtown los angeles today. Oh dull new world.
Speaker 1:So I'm listening to the reviews and they're talking about how it's not really complex. It's kind of boring. These were movies that were written for children movies and lucas has said that over and over and over again. They are kid films, especially the originals. They are kid films and you can see that in this story. And then you, yeah, the prequels are like, oh, let's make it all war and politics, yep. So people who say politics are not in Star Wars yes, it is. It's been there from the very beginning. Huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean all of this is based on Star Wars. Yeah Well yeah yeah, we are treated to a galactic civil war. Assorted heroes and villains, a princely maiden in distress, a splendid old man surviving from an extinct order of knights who possessed a mysterious power called the Force, and it is all as exciting as last year's weather reports. Why? Even the most exciting fight is an old-fashioned duel. For all that, the swords have laser beams for blades.
Speaker 1:You were very underwhelming Laser sword. Fight Laser sword but like, and it was, they were very underwhelming laser sword, but like and it was.
Speaker 1:I mean I think we appreciate them so much because we are so involved in the story and we grew up with it, but also like so there's some nostalgia factor, there's a lot of nostalgia factor, but also now they've expanded on so much, like with the Obi-Wwan kenobi show. They definitely play into that, because obi-wan now at this point, like after the show, he was like he became, like he got peace with himself, he found, like he knew what happened with vader, and even vader was like you didn't do this to me, like I am, like I am yeah, and this is not your fault like I, I did this, I did this and I so I think, when obi-wan went to um, when he was confronting vader in a new hope, now that we know all this, he wasn't going to put up a big fight, like he's already come to peace with that.
Speaker 1:So he's going to kind of just what it is staying there and he's going to sacrifice himself so the next generation can live on.
Speaker 2:Yep, kinda like Luke does in the Last Jedi, and we know so much about him.
Speaker 1:They're connecting Circles, circles. Luke did what his uh, his master taught him.
Speaker 2:And he sacrificed. So that the resistance could escape and get away.
Speaker 2:And we know all of that now and that makes us like, yes, yes, here it is all trite characterization and paltry verbiage. The one exception is Alec Guinness as the grand old man, Ben Kenobi Ben for the Hebrew, Ben to make him sound biblical and good. Kenobi probably from cannabis, ie hashes, for reasons you can probably guess. Still, Star Wars will do very nicely for those lucky enough to be children or unlucky enough never to have grown up. I would count myself very lucky to have never actually had to grow up.
Speaker 1:My kid called me out last night for being a child.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's a high five.
Speaker 1:We were talking on our way home and he's like Mom, aren't you just a big child with? All your Star Wars toys and Legos. I'm like you know what you play your video games. I talk my Star Wars, so hush you.
Speaker 2:Here we go. Speaking of kids, if you are a kid at heart, a die-hard Star Trek fan or just a confirmed addict of Marvel comics, star Wars will completely dazzle. Using such interplanetary stalwarts as Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers for inspiration, director George Lucas has concocted a mind-blowing spectacle that sends the audience off into the wondrously strange world of fantasy and satisfies just about everyone's adolescent craving for a corny, old-fashioned adventure movie. I mean, they're not wrong. It's a fun adventure movie.
Speaker 1:It's very on point, so it makes sense.
Speaker 2:Star Wars is somewhat grounded by a malfunctioning script and hopelessly infantile dialogue. Surrounded by these fascinating creatures, the actors barely hold their own, to be sure. Mark Hamill has a bland-faced innocence as Skywalker, and Carrie Fisher is comically plucky as the distressed Princess Leia. But Harrison Ford hams it up terribly as Han Solo, a cynical space pirate who has flown from one side of this galaxy to another and seen a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:So okay, let's touch base on that. Even George Lucas has admitted he is not the best writer, and that is why Empire and Return of the Jedi are significantly better stories than A New Hope. Because somebody else like wrote it. Like I know, somebody else directed it, Did somebody else write it? Or I think they helped write it. Um, which one are we looking at?
Speaker 2:Empire Strikes Back. You want the director.
Speaker 1:Who wrote it?
Speaker 2:That wasn't a word at all, lucas Lee Brackett.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I'm going to say he had more people helping writing. There were a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Wait, that's the whole cast. Lawrence, there we go. Who is it?
Speaker 1:I knew it Lawrence Lawrence Kasdan. Who is it? I knew it Lawrence Lawrence Kasdan. Yeah, so Thank you. So Lucas did not write the Empire.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:He brought in other people, which was originally going to be what he wanted to do with the prequels. He was going to do the first one, okay, and then bring people in to do number two and number three, and he had people lined up but number two and number three. And he had people lined up, but Ron Howard was supposed to do one and he couldn't. He didn't have the time for it. So then Lucas just did it all.
Speaker 2:What was Ron?
Speaker 1:Howard doing? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anybody know what Ron Howard was working on when he had to turn down?
Speaker 1:Empire, well, not Empire. The prequels, oh the prequels.
Speaker 2:When he had to turn down the prequels, prequels I don't remember what, but I do know he had to empire. Doesn't make sense. Ron howard would have been like nine.
Speaker 1:No, he would have been daddy, wasn't when did the any little kid in the indian?
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't know when did andy griffith come out?
Speaker 1:I don't know. No, because it was black, and white.
Speaker 2:Oh, 50s maybe. Oh yeah, okay, so ron howard was a kid in the 50s.
Speaker 1:Apollo 13. Maybe I think that sounds about right. Oh, okay, yeah, there was other like movies that he had to do I have?
Speaker 2:no concept of time no, you don't it's okay, he wrote it would have been in like his 20s or 30s probably. Oh my gosh, we have been on here for 49 minutes.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, so that's fun.
Speaker 2:We'll do one of these again, for maybe the next group.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I'm already thinking of ideas for next week's episode, so yeah, these are really fun I really like hanging out with you guys on here um, I hope you all have a great wednesday evening.
Speaker 2:Bad batch night or morning if you're denise, night if you're rexy oh man, I struggled to get up this morning yeah, it was such a good episode is it just a one? It's a single.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm not ready for bad batch to be over yet, and we're almost to the end I'm not either is it next?
Speaker 2:week. That's our two-parter and our finale. No, the week after the finale is on may 1st.
Speaker 1:Okay, so, oh you guys, the beginning of may is going to be fantastic. May, may 1st. We got May 1st or 2nd Damn it, I forgot it Bad Batch ends. And then we got the Phantom Menace on the 3rd, and then Movie Theater, and then we got on the 4th, may 4th, of course, tales of the Empire May 4th all episodes. Let's talk next week about the trailer and predictions that we have. Okay, it'll be like a whole other act, oh man this is fantastic.
Speaker 1:The trailer is also good for doing entire episodes we'll talk about Tales of the Jedi, yeah, so tune in for that.
Speaker 2:We're going to hang out and about the tales uh trailer maybe we'll throw in a little bit of tales of the empire, which is so funny because yeah, tales of the empire is coming, tales of the jedi was last year because they at celebration was it last year in london when they did the they announced the tales of the jedi 2. So was it just, oh yeah, they did the. They announced the Tales of the Jedi 2. So was it just, oh yeah, they did. Maybe this is part two.
Speaker 1:Maybe in part two they did Tales of the Empire. Oh, I have other things I want to talk about.
Speaker 2:Next week, next week, okay, next week, then yes, okay so maybe we'll hit on the what was the game trailer that I just watched today.
Speaker 1:Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Outlaws way that I just watched today star wars outlaws, outlaws. Maybe we can talk about that trailer too.
Speaker 1:I've never wanted to play a star wars game more than I want to play this one. I am so proud of myself. I called it that kira is going to be in it. You did a quick snippet. That is because it takes place here in the empire and they got all the crime snippets their name dropped. Why would kira not be in it? She is running. Yes, sheson Dawn, she's taken over by now. We see Han Solo and Vox.
Speaker 2:We see Han Solo and Carbonite in the trailer and immediately I was like Kira's going to be in it, so we're going to see, because she is the one who got the information out. Yep, yep, she knew that, so I wonder if Leia might make an appearance during that busted him out and that's kind of during the same.
Speaker 1:I don't think so I just think it's going to be. This character is going to have some run ins with the job of the hut, doing some jobs, okay and we'll get little easter eggs for a little bit of fan service so next week we'll talk about games and a joke of the empire, so tune in for that.
Speaker 2:It's going to be super fun and for our patreons out there or anybody who wants to buy them. Stickers are going out at the end of the week and they are cute.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know if cute is the right word we need to drop it in our Patreon and let their Patreons know what the sticker is oh, they haven't even seen them.
Speaker 2:You guys haven't even seen them. Well, we'll do that. That way, you guys still get your sneak peek. A little plug for our Patreon If you guys are not watching us, no, if you guys are not subscribed to us on Patreon, we have them as low as $3. And that gets you behind the scenes. That gets you access to us In other Discord chats that are smaller. More intimate, more time with us and we have our special Women of Star Wars episodes.
Speaker 1:We just dropped our L3. And I am currently working on one for Rey.
Speaker 2:Because we're going to do Rey for this one. So I'm very excited and I have an idea for a guest for Rey. So, sweet baby. I'm going to try real hard to get Amber on here, so it's going to be fun. Yes.
Speaker 1:So, from our galaxy to yours, may the force be with you always. Thank you for listening to. Sisterhood of the Traveling Bantha, written and produced by Denise McKay. Edited and produced by Rexy Jupiter. Original logo design by Tyler Rigney. Intro and after music is provided by the Blackpink Empire.
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